1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:09,150 [Applause] 3 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:11,599 thank you all for sticking around so 4 00:00:18,279 --> 00:00:16,160 close to lunch so an important part of 5 00:00:20,650 --> 00:00:18,289 this title is low logistical costs I put 6 00:00:23,769 --> 00:00:20,660 up this picture of our set up in 7 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:23,779 Greenland in 2014 and in which we 8 00:00:30,339 --> 00:00:26,480 piloted a probe a melt probe to 400 9 00:00:32,650 --> 00:00:30,349 meters depth that in mind as I show you 10 00:00:34,510 --> 00:00:32,660 some other drilling out operations in a 11 00:00:38,170 --> 00:00:34,520 couple of minutes 12 00:00:40,779 --> 00:00:38,180 so Tim Elam and Justin Burnett and I are 13 00:00:43,090 --> 00:00:40,789 responsible for this narrow part of the 14 00:00:46,209 --> 00:00:43,100 work that I'm going to discuss today but 15 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:46,219 this this part of the work sits within 16 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:48,559 the context of a broader portfolio of 17 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:52,089 projects funded by NASA and by NSF and 18 00:00:58,599 --> 00:00:55,129 involving a number of Co eyes that I 19 00:01:02,349 --> 00:00:58,609 want to acknowledge Jill mikake and her 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:02,359 student Caleb Schuler are helping us to 21 00:01:10,149 --> 00:01:05,930 develop microbial clean sampling in this 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:10,159 sort of probe Scott Tyler and John selca 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:12,770 are helping us to develop Rahma and 24 00:01:15,940 --> 00:01:14,690 distributed temperature sensing so that 25 00:01:17,380 --> 00:01:15,950 we can measure temperature profiles 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:17,390 everywhere between the surface of the 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:20,570 ice and the probe as it descends Ben 28 00:01:23,140 --> 00:01:22,010 Hill and Paul Kantner a couple of 29 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:23,150 students that I've worked with in 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:26,000 developing numerical modeling that for 31 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:28,850 the closure of the melt hole and what 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:31,040 happens when you have antifreeze in it 33 00:01:34,810 --> 00:01:33,290 as you'll see in a minute and Paul 34 00:01:40,660 --> 00:01:34,820 kinder Nick Logan also have helped with 35 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:40,670 experiments so to start out I want to 36 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:43,040 emphasize the science driver for this 37 00:01:50,890 --> 00:01:47,990 work there are beneath the Antarctic Ice 38 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:50,900 Sheet there are at least 400 sub glacial 39 00:01:58,090 --> 00:01:55,270 lakes they are variously connected by 40 00:02:02,290 --> 00:01:58,100 streams and rivers and maybe marshes 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:02,300 they are a very diverse group of of 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:05,570 water bodies ranging in size up to sort 43 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:07,370 of Lake Ontario size in the case of Lake 44 00:02:15,790 --> 00:02:12,769 Vostok and the point is that these 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:15,800 things are chemically and gyah 46 00:02:20,620 --> 00:02:18,890 physically quite various some of them 47 00:02:21,970 --> 00:02:20,630 have melting going on at their lids so 48 00:02:22,180 --> 00:02:21,980 they have oxygen inputs some of them 49 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:22,190 have 50 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:24,320 other sorts of varying geochemical 51 00:02:31,090 --> 00:02:27,710 inputs so they are 400 natural 52 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:31,100 laboratories for understanding how life 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:38,320 may work under ice in various ways and I 54 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:40,970 think that that is critical to 55 00:02:44,590 --> 00:02:43,340 understand how life may work as we start 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:44,600 to think about the outer solar system 57 00:02:50,290 --> 00:02:47,770 and modeling Europa and Enceladus and 58 00:02:52,810 --> 00:02:50,300 modeling or how we would go about 59 00:02:59,290 --> 00:02:52,820 analysis of blue material from those 60 00:03:01,060 --> 00:02:59,300 places so 400 lakes 400 very different 61 00:03:03,070 --> 00:03:01,070 places you need to sample some fair 62 00:03:05,740 --> 00:03:03,080 fraction of them to learn what they have 63 00:03:07,810 --> 00:03:05,750 to tell you and the problem is that 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:07,820 current methods for sampling those lakes 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:12,170 are expensive a good example of this is 66 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:14,810 the recent wizard project which more 67 00:03:20,050 --> 00:03:17,680 recently has become the salsa project 68 00:03:22,570 --> 00:03:20,060 sampling to lakes in West Antarctica 69 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:22,580 beneath 800 meters of ice 70 00:03:29,530 --> 00:03:25,550 these were scientifically extremely 71 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:29,540 productive projects but they are 72 00:03:32,770 --> 00:03:31,430 expensive on the order of 10 million 73 00:03:35,729 --> 00:03:32,780 dollars so that means that you're not 74 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:35,739 going to go to very many places this way 75 00:03:42,190 --> 00:03:39,770 especially not very fast if we're 76 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:42,200 interested to try to get information and 77 00:03:53,530 --> 00:03:45,530 insight prior to missions to the outer 78 00:03:57,220 --> 00:03:53,540 solar system so so we've been developing 79 00:04:01,199 --> 00:03:57,230 a alternative way to get into some 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:01,209 larger fraction of those 400 lakes and 81 00:04:07,630 --> 00:04:04,730 in particular this is a thermal melt 82 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:07,640 probe so it's it's it melts its way down 83 00:04:14,350 --> 00:04:09,680 into the ice using electrical power 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:14,360 supplied from the ice surface and this 85 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:16,130 is our set up again 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:18,260 in Greenland so there's just a tent with 87 00:04:24,670 --> 00:04:20,690 some high voltage power supplies and 88 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:24,680 Honda generators fuel depot and the ice 89 00:04:30,850 --> 00:04:27,290 diver this is the whole kit to get to 90 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:30,860 400 meters it was about half a Bell 91 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:33,410 Helicopter load typical air Greenland 92 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:36,080 Bell Helicopter 93 00:04:43,930 --> 00:04:40,270 and so this is logistically much lighter 94 00:04:45,570 --> 00:04:43,940 that means we can go more places and one 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:45,580 other thing to think about here is that 96 00:04:53,470 --> 00:04:49,370 thus far as many it may change but thus 97 00:04:54,850 --> 00:04:53,480 far this kind of melt probe is the the 98 00:04:57,970 --> 00:04:54,860 only technology that has been 99 00:05:01,180 --> 00:04:57,980 demonstrated to penetrate to hundreds of 100 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:01,190 meters in the ice with near autonomy so 101 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:03,890 that has continued to make it a 102 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:06,410 candidate component technology for 103 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:14,330 Europa system however a classical 104 00:05:20,110 --> 00:05:17,030 thermal melt probe lets the ice above 105 00:05:21,940 --> 00:05:20,120 the probe as you descend freeze so you 106 00:05:25,690 --> 00:05:21,950 don't get it back it's not recoverable 107 00:05:27,340 --> 00:05:25,700 and that means that we can't use it to 108 00:05:28,750 --> 00:05:27,350 go into analytics of glacial lakes 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:28,760 because certainly no one's going to let 110 00:05:35,610 --> 00:05:31,010 us leave a probe in the lake and pollute 111 00:05:39,490 --> 00:05:35,620 it and also you can't get samples back 112 00:05:41,650 --> 00:05:39,500 so we have started to develop an 113 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:41,660 extension to this technology based on 114 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:45,310 this idea so the key idea here is that 115 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:47,900 the melt hole doesn't refreeze instantly 116 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:51,230 as you go down takes hours even at East 117 00:05:57,070 --> 00:05:54,740 Antarctic temperatures and so you can 118 00:05:59,050 --> 00:05:57,080 inject an antifreeze in particular 119 00:06:00,730 --> 00:05:59,060 ethanol is a good antifreeze I'll 120 00:06:04,750 --> 00:06:00,740 explain why in a minute 121 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:04,760 to arrest the the whole refreezing and 122 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:06,710 then you can deploy cable from the 123 00:06:10,330 --> 00:06:08,870 surface you don't have to carry it all 124 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,340 in the vehicle so you can keep a small 125 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:12,080 vehicle and go deep with all of those 126 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:14,720 just logistical advantages inherent in 127 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:17,990 that you can recover samples and you 128 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:19,610 also get to deploy fibers that would be 129 00:06:23,380 --> 00:06:21,770 hard to fit in your vehicle like fiber 130 00:06:26,290 --> 00:06:23,390 optic cable to do this temperature 131 00:06:28,330 --> 00:06:26,300 measurement so the the schematic idea 132 00:06:31,030 --> 00:06:28,340 here is that the probe goes down and we 133 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:31,040 inject this ethanol at some distance 134 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:34,910 above it we choose ethanol because it's 135 00:06:39,130 --> 00:06:37,340 lighter than water and ice sheets are 136 00:06:40,660 --> 00:06:39,140 colder at the top than they are at the 137 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:40,670 bottom so you need more antifreeze at 138 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:43,160 the top and you want that to float on 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:45,320 the more dilute solution beneath so 140 00:06:54,299 --> 00:06:48,849 ethanol is a more miraculous material 141 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:54,309 then perhaps you realized however some 142 00:06:59,070 --> 00:06:56,409 of you might be hot water drillers or 143 00:07:01,290 --> 00:06:59,080 you might know hot water drillers who 144 00:07:04,559 --> 00:07:01,300 will tell you that wait a minute if you 145 00:07:06,689 --> 00:07:04,569 pour ethanol down a melt hole you'll get 146 00:07:08,939 --> 00:07:06,699 a hole full of slush and everything will 147 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:08,949 just be clogged up so you might be 148 00:07:14,369 --> 00:07:11,770 skeptical of this solution about just 149 00:07:17,850 --> 00:07:14,379 outlined for you let me explain based on 150 00:07:20,699 --> 00:07:17,860 numerical modeling and now lab work that 151 00:07:22,409 --> 00:07:20,709 we've done why we we think that is that 152 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:22,419 the hot water drillers do get holes full 153 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:25,800 of slush and why we can avoid that so 154 00:07:31,499 --> 00:07:29,050 here is the situation just after you've 155 00:07:35,699 --> 00:07:31,509 drilled a hole you have a column full of 156 00:07:37,529 --> 00:07:35,709 water at zero C and there's some warm 157 00:07:39,989 --> 00:07:37,539 ice outside the hole and out here at the 158 00:07:41,159 --> 00:07:39,999 far field there's some distant 159 00:07:43,290 --> 00:07:41,169 temperature that's the ice sheet 160 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:43,300 temperature at that depth what you 161 00:07:46,409 --> 00:07:44,889 really would like ideally is to wave a 162 00:07:48,799 --> 00:07:46,419 wand and just have everything be 163 00:07:51,989 --> 00:07:48,809 isothermal with antifreeze in this hole 164 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:51,999 of course you can't quite do that so but 165 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:53,649 the point is that hot water drilling 166 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:56,050 warms up ice outside the hole quite a 167 00:08:00,929 --> 00:07:59,199 bit because of the operational way it's 168 00:08:02,999 --> 00:08:00,939 done they hold the hole open they read 169 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:03,009 the hole so there's quite a bit of heat 170 00:08:08,069 --> 00:08:05,919 stored outside here and then if you dump 171 00:08:10,980 --> 00:08:08,079 antifreeze in there this is a lot like 172 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:10,990 putting rock salt into crushed ice in an 173 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:12,550 old-style ice cream maker you 174 00:08:16,290 --> 00:08:14,529 immediately drop the temperature of that 175 00:08:18,209 --> 00:08:16,300 solution you take energy out of the 176 00:08:20,699 --> 00:08:18,219 bonds in the ice and drop this 177 00:08:22,919 --> 00:08:20,709 temperature so what I'm going to do here 178 00:08:25,469 --> 00:08:22,929 is in this progression the light gray is 179 00:08:27,899 --> 00:08:25,479 the previous panels temperature profile 180 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:27,909 and the black one is the current one so 181 00:08:31,649 --> 00:08:29,110 you drop this 182 00:08:32,939 --> 00:08:31,659 you put drop the antifreeze in you 183 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:32,949 immediately lower the temperature of 184 00:08:37,709 --> 00:08:35,169 this but you've still got this warm ice 185 00:08:40,439 --> 00:08:37,719 outside and this ice is above the 186 00:08:43,409 --> 00:08:40,449 temperature that this stuff wants to 187 00:08:44,939 --> 00:08:43,419 dissolve so it starts to eat out it 188 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:44,949 starts to erode the whole wall and as 189 00:08:51,949 --> 00:08:48,610 long as there is ice that is in a sense 190 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:51,959 to warm out here this erosion continues 191 00:08:58,019 --> 00:08:54,250 till you get to a situation like this 192 00:09:00,019 --> 00:08:58,029 and now the problem arises that you 193 00:09:02,069 --> 00:09:00,029 start to freeze back and you exclude 194 00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:02,079 antifreeze back into the hole but that 195 00:09:04,050 --> 00:09:02,590 Malec 196 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:04,060 Hiller diffusion the chemical diffusion 197 00:09:08,250 --> 00:09:06,100 is much slower than the temperature 198 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:08,260 diffusion so you end up with a lot of 199 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:10,000 antifreeze here not so much there but 200 00:09:19,230 --> 00:09:11,710 it's cold everywhere so you start to 201 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:19,240 form slush in this hole aha a melt probe 202 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:21,250 has a natural advantage in this 203 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:23,710 situation because if you go down at 204 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:26,080 meters per hour and notice I'm saying 205 00:09:29,790 --> 00:09:27,760 meters per hour not centimeters per hour 206 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:29,800 just sometimes what we discuss in the 207 00:09:34,290 --> 00:09:32,130 planetary context because of power 208 00:09:35,820 --> 00:09:34,300 restrictions but if you go down to 209 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:35,830 meters per hour you heat up much less 210 00:09:40,770 --> 00:09:38,530 ice and you don't have to keep things 211 00:09:42,810 --> 00:09:40,780 open like you do in hot water drilling 212 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:42,820 so you you have a natural advantage 213 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:44,770 you've put you've stored much less heat 214 00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:47,830 out here now you put in this antifreeze 215 00:09:52,380 --> 00:09:49,720 but you can put it in pretty quickly 216 00:09:55,170 --> 00:09:52,390 behind the probe and so you greatly 217 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:55,180 limit this area and so when you get over 218 00:10:02,880 --> 00:09:57,040 here you have a much more even 219 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:02,890 antifreeze distribution and so that's 220 00:10:06,810 --> 00:10:05,200 why we think that we can get away 221 00:10:09,810 --> 00:10:06,820 without making slush and we tested this 222 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:09,820 first in the laboratory this is case we 223 00:10:14,370 --> 00:10:11,920 put some red food coloring in the water 224 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:14,380 so that you could see it but the the 225 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:17,230 hole in this laboratory block refreezes 226 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:19,990 symmetrically and then we stopped it 227 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:22,000 with ethanol and we didn't make slush 228 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:23,770 but in the laboratory we had a hard time 229 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:26,200 to keep the slush in the hole the ice 230 00:10:31,620 --> 00:10:29,680 block cracked so we have gone on to test 231 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:31,630 this at an ice drilling program test 232 00:10:36,810 --> 00:10:34,000 facility that's an NSF sponsored test 233 00:10:40,020 --> 00:10:36,820 facility in Madison Wisconsin with a 234 00:10:42,270 --> 00:10:40,030 full-scale ice diver so you see here 235 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:42,280 this this is the thing that is used to 236 00:10:47,430 --> 00:10:45,520 inject the ethanol there's a this is the 237 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:47,440 top of the ice diver there's a melt head 238 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:48,850 there that's conical in case there is 239 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:51,010 some refreezing so we can melt and come 240 00:10:56,850 --> 00:10:54,010 back out the ice columns 14 meters high 241 00:10:59,550 --> 00:10:56,860 we injected ethanol at 0 °c during the 242 00:11:03,240 --> 00:10:59,560 descent we got temperature measurements 243 00:11:04,950 --> 00:11:03,250 along the cable and the upshot was that 244 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:04,960 we got down the tip of the probe was at 245 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:08,170 8 meters depth we know that there wasn't 246 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:10,030 slush in the hole because we sampled it 247 00:11:15,970 --> 00:11:13,570 with a cup so we brought up liquid from 248 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:15,980 various depths it was all clear 249 00:11:19,570 --> 00:11:18,050 when we turned the temperature down in 250 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:19,580 the hole we could make slush so we could 251 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:21,290 compare to that so we know that it was 252 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:23,060 clear when we sampled it and then we 253 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:27,650 recovered the probe and this is the 254 00:11:32,950 --> 00:11:29,360 temperature data so there's some cooling 255 00:11:34,180 --> 00:11:32,960 near the top it was minus 20 in Madison 256 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:34,190 at the time that we did this last 257 00:11:40,990 --> 00:11:38,450 February but over most of the distance 258 00:11:43,180 --> 00:11:41,000 between the top of the column and the 259 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:43,190 probe about the top of the probe is 260 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:46,300 about minus 6 meters or 6 meters depth 261 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:48,620 with temperatures between minus 6 and 262 00:11:58,510 --> 00:11:52,730 minus 8 so we have clear liquid at minus 263 00:12:01,690 --> 00:11:58,520 7 or so C without making slush so the 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:01,700 upshot is that we think it's important 265 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:05,450 to explore these earth analogs we think 266 00:12:10,330 --> 00:12:08,510 that we can demonstrate reliable 267 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:10,340 operation to hundreds of meters of depth 268 00:12:15,250 --> 00:12:13,090 but we are we need to develop this 269 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:15,260 recoverability to explore those earth 270 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:17,680 analogs in a way that will pass muster 271 00:12:24,330 --> 00:12:20,930 and the prospect is for penetration two 272 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:24,340 kilometers depth with a small probe 273 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:33,800 thank you all right we have time for a 274 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:46,140 hi I'm Kate Kraft um really cool um 275 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:48,880 technology have you and this wasn't part 276 00:12:52,470 --> 00:12:50,410 of your talk but I'm curious about what 277 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:52,480 are the sampling kind of technologies 278 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:53,710 you've been looking at can you just 279 00:12:59,250 --> 00:12:56,800 speak to that for sure 280 00:13:03,000 --> 00:12:59,260 so what we're presently doing and 281 00:13:06,270 --> 00:13:03,010 working some kinks out of is to use a 282 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:06,280 port on the side of the vehicle and a 283 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:10,150 peristaltic pump so that's a pump that's 284 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:11,290 commonly used in medical applications 285 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:13,930 for instance it allows you to sterilize 286 00:13:16,890 --> 00:13:15,580 the tube that goes through the pump and 287 00:13:19,260 --> 00:13:16,900 you and the rest of the pump never 288 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:19,270 touches the fluid and we put that into a 289 00:13:27,570 --> 00:13:25,450 bag that we autoclave and yeah we 290 00:13:30,030 --> 00:13:27,580 present that with the present size we 291 00:13:32,660 --> 00:13:30,040 have two of those units and they they 292 00:13:35,970 --> 00:13:32,670 each acquire about 150 mils of sample 293 00:13:37,770 --> 00:13:35,980 but as I say we were we have been 294 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:37,780 exercising that in the field including 295 00:13:42,570 --> 00:13:39,670 most recently in May on Eastern glacier 296 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:42,580 in Washington State we're still working 297 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:47,410 on getting it working just right my 298 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:49,510 concern was are you prevent 299 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:52,390 contamination now just organizations but 300 00:13:55,860 --> 00:13:54,610 also contamination control and bio 301 00:14:00,780 --> 00:13:55,870 monitoring 302 00:14:02,490 --> 00:14:00,790 yes yes very much so actually caleb is 303 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:02,500 in the back maybe it would you like to 304 00:14:11,940 --> 00:14:09,490 address that Caleb the question is how 305 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:11,950 are we addressing forward contamination 306 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:14,080 and I thought maybe you talked about the 307 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:15,790 the doping and cleaning and the Ricoh 308 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:18,130 yeah yeah so we have a protocol we use 309 00:14:22,530 --> 00:14:19,900 for cleaning it before we go into the 310 00:14:23,940 --> 00:14:22,540 ice and we've also done some laboratory 311 00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:23,950 tests where we test the dragging of 312 00:14:27,870 --> 00:14:25,360 materials in the ice as the probe 313 00:14:30,750 --> 00:14:27,880 descends and we're working on some more 314 00:14:32,970 --> 00:14:30,760 dye testing to kind of incorporate that 315 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:32,980 with the ethanol as we just hit the rice 316 00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:35,230 to look at mixing between possible 317 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,300 liquid reservoirs in the system but the 318 00:14:43,230 --> 00:14:41,680 cleaning the exterior cleaning that 319 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:43,240 Caleb's alluding to is something that 320 00:14:47,340 --> 00:14:45,040 jill mikake developed first in 321 00:14:50,579 --> 00:14:47,350 connection with the i small i small the 322 00:14:52,439 --> 00:14:50,589 german melt probe at Taylor glacier in 323 00:14:55,119 --> 00:14:52,449 in the East End 324 00:14:59,679 --> 00:14:55,129 so and we I mean you have some very nice 325 00:15:01,840 --> 00:14:59,689 numbers about floors right yeah yeah you 326 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:01,850 come talk to you yeah okay we'll let 327 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:03,980 everybody get to lunch thanks again to